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1、For todays class session, Reid Hoffman interviewed our special guest, Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Alphabet (and formerly the chairman and CEO of Google). You can see the video of the class here.在今天节目中，雷德霍夫曼采访了特别来宾，Alphabet 公司的主席，Eric Schmidt（谷歌前主席兼 CEO）。可以在此观看采访视频。Q: You had a substantive career b
2、efore Google, both at Sun and Novell. What did you learn that helped at Google.A: I went to visit my old boss at Xerox PARC, Bob Taylor. He was the person who funded the ARPANET and defined the personal computer. As a young manager, the rule is that you absorb everything. My first experience at Sun
3、colored the next 30 years of development.The next 5 years are when youll learn all the little things about leadership.Sun was tumultuous and political. Companies can reorganize prematurely, become religious. There was a meeting where we realized we could not match the cost of PCs. That was the signa
4、l that we needed to change.I went to Novell under the mistaken goal of being a CEO. I didnt do the due diligence, and if I had, I wouldnt have gone. Our basic goal was to get out with our professional reputations intact and not end up in jail. The books were cooked, and people were frauds. But it tu
5、rns out you can overcome that, and the skills I developed helped at Google.I understood the rule of cash, so we did everything we could to manage for revenue, and the rest is history.问：去谷歌工作之前，你在 Sun 和 Novell 公司任职多年，这两段职业经验中什么对你在谷歌的工作有帮助？答：我在施乐帕克研究中心拜访了我以前的老板， Bob Taylor。他为阿帕网提供资金，并定义了个人电脑。作为一位年轻的管理
6、者，规则就是需要吸收一切。我首次在 Sun 的工作经历丰富了我未来 30 年的发展。未来的 5 年则是学习管理方面所有的细节。Sun 公司很吵闹，又分派别。公司过早地重组，变得具有宗教性。在一次会议中，我们意识到个人电脑的利润还不够成本费，这就是我们需要改变的信号。去 Novell 时，我一心想成为 CEO。那时我没有做到该做的努力，并且，如果做到了，就不会去 Novell。我们基本的目标是，靠专业的声誉完好无损地走向发展，而不是在监狱里结束职业生涯。那些书上说的都是骗人的，人们是骗子。但最后能够克服这个困难，在这里学到的技巧对我在谷歌的工作有帮助。我了解到了资金的重要性，所以我们做任何能做的
7、去争取资金，剩下的就只是过去。Q: Is there anything youd tell your younger self?A: Do things sooner and make fewer mistakes. The question is, what causes me not to make those decisions quickly. Some people are quicker than others, and its not clear which actually need to be answered quickly. Hindsight is always tha
8、t you make the important decisions more quickly.问：你有什么要对年轻的自己说的吗？答：做事要更快，少犯错误。关键是找出什么让我不能快速做决定。一些人比其他人快，不清楚实际上哪一个需要快速作出回答。事后诸葛亮总能让人快速做出重要决策。Q: Talk about when you joined Google.A: These two young men are brilliant, crazy, and unreliable, and we need a CEO that can manage them. Larry and Sergeys vett
9、ing technique was to spend a weekend with the candidates, which meant that none of them passed. When we met, it was clear that we were compatible. I had a list of things they needed to do, and we went and did them.Almost all small companies are full of energy and no process. My list was straightforw
10、ard: internationalization plans, sales plans, product plans, accounting, etc. My first meeting at Google was like being at a graduate school full of interesting people with no deadlines or deliverables. Offices at Google had 4 people because Larry and Sergeys office at Stanford had 4 people.问：谈一谈你当初
11、加入谷歌的情况。答：这两个年轻人杰出，疯狂，不可靠，所以我们需要一个 CEO 来管理他们。Larry 和Sergey 的审查方法是和所有候选人相处一周，这意味着这些候选人最后谁也通过不了。我们见面时，相处很融洽。我有一清单的事情需要他们去做，然后我们就去完成了。几乎所有的小公司都充满能量，但没有过程。我的清单很明确：跨国计划，销售计划，产品计划，账单等。我在谷歌的第一次会议就像在一个充满有趣的人的研究院开的，没有截止时间和要交的任务。谷歌的办公室有四个人，因为 Larry 和 Sergey 在斯坦福的办公室有四个人。Q: How did the relationship with Larry
12、and Sergey develop?A: I was well aware of the John Sculley/Steve Jobs story. Jobs needed someone to be CEO, the board picked Sculley, Jobs and Sculley had a fight, and the board picked Sculley because you have to back your CEO. Steve left, founded NEXT, then came back and within a month, had gotten
13、the CEO who brought him back fired, and replaced the entire board. It was a very Steve Jobs thing to do.I knew that it was Larry and Sergeys company, and I acted that way. For example, I never did any press. Right before the IPO, Larry and Sergey did an interview with Playboyno pictures. It turns ou
14、t that the interview was at the wrong time in the quiet period, and it put the IPO in jeopardy. “Did we screw up?” The correct answer is Yes. But the even more correct answer is no problem, well fix this. From that moment on, theyve never given an interview. That was 12 years ago.When they wanted to
15、 do interviews, they did them. Once they didnt want to do it anymore, I did them.Its their company. At Facebook, its worked extremely well, with Mark bringing in Sheryl.问：你和 Larry 和 Sergey 的关系是如何发展的？答：我很关注 John Sculley 和 Steve Jobs 的故事。Jobs 需要找一位 CEO，董事会就选择了Sculley。但 Jobs 和 Sculley 吵了一架，而董事会支持 Scull
16、ey，因为他们必须支持他们的CEO。Steve 离开了苹果，建立了 NEXT，之后在一个月内又回到苹果，将让他回到公司的CEO 炒了，并更换所有的董事会成员。这是 Steve Jobs 要做的事情。我知道谷歌是 Larry 和 Sergey 的公司，我工作上就只按这个做的。比如说，我不在媒体上露面。在首次公开募股之前，花花公子采访 Larry 和 Sergey，没有照片刊登那种。结果证明这是一个在平稳时期发生在错误时间的访谈，这使首次公开募股陷入危机。“我们是不是搞砸了？”正确的答案是：对。但更正确的答案是：没问题，我们会解决这个问题。从那之后，他们再也没接受任何采访。这件事发生在 12 年前。他们想接受采访时，他们就去做。他们不想时，我就为他们做。这是他们的公司。马克聘请了雪莉，在脸书上运作得很好。Q: Google is at 50,000 peopleA: 60,000. I have a saying about thisits easy to double, but its very hard to qu
